The Cool Hall of Fame #162


John Carradine

12 comments:

Christopher said...

come on long john!...Think! Think man!..

Testify said...

Am I getting carried away here or does this picture also relate to the Monroe at Actors Studio/Mr Magoo/ James Dean series. I think Carradine may have worked with Dean on TV, he appears in the 2005 Dean doc Forever Young (which I haven't seen)and also appeared in two Nick Ray films (Johnny Guitar and The True Story Of Jesse James, the latter of which was apparently going to star Dean before he died). Assuming that this web is Dean's (and not, say, Nick Ray's)I wonder if Dean Martin (Man Of The West 34) is also intended to be a part of it as Sailor Beware, a Dean Martin/ Jerry Lewis vehicle saw an early film appearance by James Dean. Come to think of it Elvis claimed to know all of Rebel Without a Cause (and was also considered by Nick Ray for the Wagner part in The True Story of Jesse James). Am I going toofar now? Am I going mad!!!

Tom Sutpen said...

Uhhhh . . . not too far (and never mad), but in all honesty this image wasn't part of that constellation of posts you picked up on; not consciously, anyway. You have, however, lurched into the underlying principle (at least as I see it) of this blog:

Everything is connected to everything else.

Now, obviously some connections are more connected than others, but I've certainly found that I need not deliberately plant images to embody that principle. The connections often (possibly more often than not) spring up of their own accord, without my sometimes ham-fisted assistance.

It's probably indecent of me to speak so openly of how I go about this part of my bloggin' duties, but I'll give you a hint on this sub-series:

The nucleus of it isn't James Dean . . . or Marilyn . . . or Magoo.

It's Elia Kazan. Everything else is a branch.

Tommy O'C said...

The nucleus of it isn't James Dean . . . or Marilyn . . . or Magoo. It's Elia Kazan. Everything else is a branch.

Right on!

P.S. That is definitely the face of a man who made over 300 films. The mind boggles.

P.S.S. I'll check out your blog, Bruno.

Testify said...

Kazan!!! Ok so Jimmy Dean was in East of Eden, I see, Nick Ray (the seminal image above) was a disciple (for want of a better word)and Monroe attended the Actors Studio which Kazan helped found. But the Mr Magoo connection? I don't get it.
I humbly submit that Nick Ray or James Dean or even Rebel Without A Cause would've been a better nucleus, though of course the series may not be over and I could as yet eat my words (which I hasten to add are typed with LOVE).

estiv said...

But the Mr Magoo connection? I don't get it.

Well, the voice of Mr Magoo was Jim Backus, who played James Dean's father in Rebel Without a Cause. That would be one connection.

Testify said...

Yeah I know but that's a Dean/Ray connection not really a Kazan connection, or at least as a Kazan link it comes at 1 or 2 removes which makes me wail HOW BIG IS THIS WEB!! Do I have to go back over EVERYTHING!!!

Tommy O'C said...

I think it's the idea that "everything is connected." Yes, Backus in Rebel would be a Nick Ray connection but it would also be (because of Ray's connection to Kazan) a Kazan connection twice removed, as in Backus being connected to Kazan by two degrees of separation.

swac said...

Hmm...Jim Backus was also on an Edgar Bergan/Charlie McCarthy TV special in 1950 and appeared in the 1951 remake of M with New York actor and blacklist victim Howard Da Silva and Don't Bother to Knock with Marilyn Monroe...

Are you sure Jim Backus isn't at the centre of it all?

John said...

Aren't you missing a few fairly obvious candidates for the Cool Hall of Fame? Paul Newman. Clint Eastwood. Arnold Palmer. Jack Kennedy. Mickey Mantle. Muhammed Ali. Shirley McLaine. Willie Mays. Frank Sinatra. Paul Hornung. Edward R. Murrow. Humphrey Bogart. Sam Snead. Bette Davis. Mickey Spillane.

Tom Sutpen said...

A fair point. Certainly most of those names belong there, with the possible exceptions of John F. Kennedy (invading South Vietnam . . . or, as Arthur Schlesinger put it in the official history, A Thousand Days, "thwarting internal Communist agression in Vietnam' . . . kinda cancels out his many, decidedly cool, other attributes), Ed Murrow (in God's name, why?) and Sam Snead (Golf is . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . ). I was, however, leaning more towards the less-obvious contenders, with the occasional obvious one slotted in here and there.

They'll all make it eventually.

Flynn D said...

Google a couple of variations on "John Carradine and Jack Barrymore". Chances are you'll get a great story about a practical joke played on the upstart Carradine (the much younger thespian had the temerity to say "I hear you are very much like me" to the Great Profile's face!).